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The Light Beings swing with us (parts 9 and 10)
These are the last 2 parts.
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Part 9
SY: But I do have a deep sense that this is a message of hope, this is a message of cohesiveness: "Hey listen, you guys, you can do anything, focus your energy, focus your minds, walk into it, choose a different world, see it, create it!" I've come to the decision, after spending some time talking to you actually, going "If you don't want to listen to me that's fine, no skin off my nose. But if somebody does want to hear it, then I will offer it, and I will share it with you, and if you want to share it with somebody else, hey great!” Because I think the more of us that feel peace and love in our hearts, can do nothing but create good. I mean, what can you do with that? (Except, create the [world]...)
JG: Oh yeah, I mean you're offering people a plate and you're saying: "Here's some delicious food, do you want it? If you don't want it, that's OK, there's somebody else that would love to eat it”, and end of story. You don't sit and argue with them about the food, and what kind of food it is, and where did it come from, and everything else.
SY: Exactly!
JG: They want to drop you into that, and you're going "God! You know how much time and energy I could spend here, when I could actually be feeding somebody else?"
SY: Exactly! So, that's kind of what I'm coming at it, from this time, it's the sense that, if you don't want it, fine. But it's true. We have this option and it's an interesting fact: when I did the Fire the Grid [III and II], I traveled around Canada and the United States a bit. Now, I traveled for free, people gathered enough money to fly me there, and I stayed at someone's house, so this was not a big money-making profit thing, and it's kind of the same thing that I have a message now to deliver. Now, how it's going to manifest itself, James? I don't know, except you are the very first one who's called up and said "Listen, Shelley, let's share this." So, I'm sharing it.
When I did the Fire the Grid [III], first one around, it was really cool to see, in one particular week, I was on a Baptist radio show, speaking to a bunch of really Christian-based people. And in the same week I was on one of the paranormal shows, speaking to a bunch of ET guys. Now, the religious people and the ET guys don't necessarily get along, but you know what they got in similar James? They have love in their heart, they desire for change and they have one Source, one God, I call the Brilliant Infinity. So, as soon as you stop trying to define what's different about you, and you look at what's the same about you, guess what? There's no difference.
JG: The bottom line is we all came from the same Source, and we all return to the same Source. We have these incredible adventures in between, and the Source is just saying "As you wish. As you wish, go for it."
SY: Exactly!
JG: Good or bad, I mean we live in an action-reaction world. [Notice] a plane of demonstration where we do, magnetized people [are] advanced to us according to our consciousness. But there's nobody keeping our books, other than ourselves. The forgiveness is already there, so we only have to forgive ourselves. But it all just like "Stop, take a deep breath, forgive ourselves, make a commitment to go forward, and live a life in harmony with each other and the planet.” We could turn this place around very quickly.
SY: It's funny you say that, about judgment and forgiveness and stuff. Because again, in fact from the beginning of the Fire the Grid project, a lot of people tried to put me in some sort of place of "Oh, holy you", right? And I said "Listen, guys, I have had a hard life. I am a product of a hard life, so don't look to me for any kind of pious lifestyle." Because people said "Oh, you did this, and you did that" and I'm like "Yeah, I did that, but do you know what? I came back and I'm worthy enough to come back and remember this beautiful message. Well, then, there's hope for all of us."
JG: This stone, if it doesn't accept the chisel, you never get this beautiful statue. And because of your hard life you developed the inner strength and character to bring a message like this out.
SY: Oh yeah. You got to have a good sense of humor, which you reminded me of. You got a really, say "Every one of us is worthy, because we are all part of this divine light. We're all cells of this divine light." And whatever humans think you did on your journey to get to the place of awakening, once you're awake you look back and go "Wow, look at all those things I did" and then you look forward and say "Wow, look at this, all the things I can do now!"
JG: Now you know what you don't want. There's an old saying "You never know what you want, until you experience a lot of little what_you_don't_wants."
SY: Oh, totally. So, people come and kind of say "Well, aren't you the Shelley Yates that did this and this and this?" and I'm like "Yeah, I did those things, they were tough. They were challenges, I'm glad I grew through that, I'm glad I'm at this place, and I'm glad I can offer this information to you without having to stand up in ropes and pretend I'm something I'm not. Because, I'm just a normal human being like you, and together we can change the world, but not through looking at each other, like you have to be ‘O, holy you’, or ‘O, special you’, or any of those things. It's like ‘Yeah, I'm just a person.’"
JG: People will come up here looking for the infamous James. They're waiting for the big curtains to [wide up,] open up, and come down of some staircase or something, with a bowl of fruit next to me, I don't know what it is. But they get here and they find a guy shoveling manure with dirt all over his face, or fixing the plumbing, or whatever, doing whatever needs to get done here, and then they start asking me "Well, where's James? Does he ever come out?" It's kind of hilarious, really - I used to go along with them "Nah, that guy never comes out. We work our asses off, we never see him." I'll play with him for a little while, and then I go get cleaned up, and I'll come back out and hang out with them for a little while, and they just look at me laughing, it's pretty funny.
SY: Well, and is nothing worse than somebody putting some sort of label on you that "Oh, my goodness, you're so special". Like "Come on, lady, I'm not, OK? I'm struggling just like you.” And when I did give speaking engagements, I used to always end them by saying "I honor and respect you so much for following the path with no proof." Lots of people haven't seen Light Beings, or have the experience of the miracle I have seen, or any of that. So, I still question, if my ego still gets in there and stirs my head - my God, imagine how hard this is for somebody who's had nothing to hold on to.
JG: I think about that, because we, you and I probably just take it for granted. I know you don't, but in a way I take it for granted, because I've had all these outrageous experiences, and I just share, so everything just flows, I don't have a problem with it.
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Part 10
JG: But then I have to step back and I go "Wow" and I was told once not to water seedlings with a fire hose, that we'd just uproot them. But, sometimes, I forget, and I forget that people just haven't had some of these experiences. They haven't had the proof (or the…), they don't have the reference points. And the ones that are just doing it and coming from the heart, even though they haven't had those experiences, to me my hat's off to them.
SY: Big time. Because, like I said, here I am. Imagine, I went and hid myself away in the house for at least the past year and a half. I don't interact, I don't [go out], I don't engage, and of course, sitting in my own home, stewing in the fact that I have this piece of information I really want to share, and I mean fair, like "Oh, Shelley, you don't want to go out and do that, because you know you're going to get all these negatives.” And you know, it's so easy for us as humans to look at the negative, so when Fire the Grid happened, we had thousands, (I can't even imagine how many) hundreds of thousands of e-mails come in, saying "What a great experience I had”, and they shared it, I mean, in the e-mails and it's on the site. It's this [glue] called Testimonials, and here beautiful, beautiful e-mails of truth and what they experienced. And I get one or two e-mails saying "You're the bogeyman, you're doing this, and we don't like you and we want you to go away." What do I do? I go away. I literally go away.
So, the people who have loved me through this have been incredibly patient, while I move[d] through my human stuff. And you know what, James? We all got our human stuff. You may have a great day on Monday, when you're completely spiritually aligned, compassionate, and you see the great Brilliant Infinity in everything, in everyone you look at, and then Tuesday you have what I call the fall from grace, you're miserable, and you can't see anything positive.
JG: Like a good friend of mine, well Miceal Ledwith talks about that, and he says "So how's your life going?" Everybody goes "It's really good. Everything is just peace, I'm doing great." He goes "Oh, I'm sorry." And you look at him really weird. He goes "You're not evolving. If there's no chaos and no challenges in your life you're not evolving.” I think about that too, and I go "Well, damn, I must be on a fast-track to evolution, because I still have that peace, but I'm definitely having those challenges” and I know you do too. The old saying is "If you're not receiving flak you're not over the target.” I've been sitting on the target for quite a while, I think.
SY: Yeah, there you go! So, even in the message of delivery today that I'm giving you, you heard me say yesterday "I'm sitting on the fence, James", and you're like "Well, will you do the show?" and I'm like "OK, I will, I will" and then, as soon as I commit to do it you're hearing me go "Oh, my gosh, what am I doing?" So, I send this message out to your audience and I open myself to divine instructions and guidance and I say "I'll carry this light as best as I can, and I'll deliver it to people as honestly and truthful as I can, and basically if you don't like it, listen to someone else." You know, think about it.
JG: I think when you hear this show again later on, you're going to go "Oh, my God, where did that come from?"
SY: Well, I'm really thankful for your guidance and help and allowing this light to shine and say "OK, I can step into this today." So thank you very much.
JG: We're just mirrors here. We've got a wonderful group here, at the ranch, and they really support people and their own divinity and their own awakening process, and I love that we're trying to get a really strong core group here to hold the energy.
SY: Well, [that's what I] other than Nova Scotia in Canada, and it's full of a lot of people, that are full of a lot of questions, and I have not necessarily been arms-open-wide type of thing, because a lot of people try to get me to speak in churches. It's like "You need to go to a church." and I have no problem with a church, because like I said, it's the full range. But, then you go into a church and then you're held up to some sort of standard, and I don't want to be held up to a standard, I just want a meeting place to tell you the message. So, if it happens to be a church, it's because this is a great room to talk to you, it holds everybody in, and we can all get together and be warm and comfortable. But, basically, this message is across the board for every human being that's walking on the Earth. We are all energy beings in these human suits, and we can focus our attention and our energy, and we can change our situation and choose the world we want. So, let's do that.
JG: It is just, just get back to basics. So, people want to get a hold of you, how do they get a hold of you, do they just go to your website?
SY: Yeah, [my website is, I don't know if,] I think they took down my e-mail, like my personal e-mail, because I kind of said "Look, I'm done". But again, if people want to get hold of me, they can certainly get hold of me through the Fire the Grid website, and as long as everything moves smoothly in the next couple of weeks I will try to reach my webmaster and try to do what we've done here tonight. I'll try to get it on the site, I don't like the word "try" - I "will", I will do these things, get this stuff on the site, and get a link to me so that we can start having conversations. If you got anything negative to say, send it to someone else, because those are the ones I don't really want to see. But if you want to share something with me, my heart's open, I hear your joy too. So, I will get all these things done as soon as humanly possible.
JG: I'm glad you're back on track and you're doing the Fire the Grid [I], we definitely need it right now. I know you've got some legions of beautiful Light Beings behind you, orchestrating this whole thing and, as I say, you just have to become like a hollow bone and get out of way and let the Spirit [plug] through you.
SY: Thank you. That's what I'm going to do.
JG: We're out of time, so I got to sign off. It's just been an awesome interview, and we'll have to do it again soon.
SY: I look forward to it, I really do. And just to remind people, it's FiretheGrid.com or org, and check in and have a little patience with me - as soon as I can, I'll be there.
JG: Great, awesome.
SY: Thanks James.
JG: Thanks for coming on this show.
SY: OK, bye.
JG: All right, this is James Gilliland with "As you wish" talk radio, signing off. Have a great evening. Good night.
And i realized that i gave wrong instructions (in case anyone needs these). In editing my post, i've used br between < and >, followed (very important) by carriage return.
Part 9
SY: But I do have a deep sense that this is a message of hope, this is a message of cohesiveness: "Hey listen, you guys, you can do anything, focus your energy, focus your minds, walk into it, choose a different world, see it, create it!" I've come to the decision, after spending some time talking to you actually, going "If you don't want to listen to me that's fine, no skin off my nose. But if somebody does want to hear it, then I will offer it, and I will share it with you, and if you want to share it with somebody else, hey great!” Because I think the more of us that feel peace and love in our hearts, can do nothing but create good. I mean, what can you do with that? (Except, create the [world]...)
JG: Oh yeah, I mean you're offering people a plate and you're saying: "Here's some delicious food, do you want it? If you don't want it, that's OK, there's somebody else that would love to eat it”, and end of story. You don't sit and argue with them about the food, and what kind of food it is, and where did it come from, and everything else.
SY: Exactly!
JG: They want to drop you into that, and you're going "God! You know how much time and energy I could spend here, when I could actually be feeding somebody else?"
SY: Exactly! So, that's kind of what I'm coming at it, from this time, it's the sense that, if you don't want it, fine. But it's true. We have this option and it's an interesting fact: when I did the Fire the Grid [III and II], I traveled around Canada and the United States a bit. Now, I traveled for free, people gathered enough money to fly me there, and I stayed at someone's house, so this was not a big money-making profit thing, and it's kind of the same thing that I have a message now to deliver. Now, how it's going to manifest itself, James? I don't know, except you are the very first one who's called up and said "Listen, Shelley, let's share this." So, I'm sharing it.
When I did the Fire the Grid [III], first one around, it was really cool to see, in one particular week, I was on a Baptist radio show, speaking to a bunch of really Christian-based people. And in the same week I was on one of the paranormal shows, speaking to a bunch of ET guys. Now, the religious people and the ET guys don't necessarily get along, but you know what they got in similar James? They have love in their heart, they desire for change and they have one Source, one God, I call the Brilliant Infinity. So, as soon as you stop trying to define what's different about you, and you look at what's the same about you, guess what? There's no difference.
JG: The bottom line is we all came from the same Source, and we all return to the same Source. We have these incredible adventures in between, and the Source is just saying "As you wish. As you wish, go for it."
SY: Exactly!
JG: Good or bad, I mean we live in an action-reaction world. [Notice] a plane of demonstration where we do, magnetized people [are] advanced to us according to our consciousness. But there's nobody keeping our books, other than ourselves. The forgiveness is already there, so we only have to forgive ourselves. But it all just like "Stop, take a deep breath, forgive ourselves, make a commitment to go forward, and live a life in harmony with each other and the planet.” We could turn this place around very quickly.
SY: It's funny you say that, about judgment and forgiveness and stuff. Because again, in fact from the beginning of the Fire the Grid project, a lot of people tried to put me in some sort of place of "Oh, holy you", right? And I said "Listen, guys, I have had a hard life. I am a product of a hard life, so don't look to me for any kind of pious lifestyle." Because people said "Oh, you did this, and you did that" and I'm like "Yeah, I did that, but do you know what? I came back and I'm worthy enough to come back and remember this beautiful message. Well, then, there's hope for all of us."
JG: This stone, if it doesn't accept the chisel, you never get this beautiful statue. And because of your hard life you developed the inner strength and character to bring a message like this out.
SY: Oh yeah. You got to have a good sense of humor, which you reminded me of. You got a really, say "Every one of us is worthy, because we are all part of this divine light. We're all cells of this divine light." And whatever humans think you did on your journey to get to the place of awakening, once you're awake you look back and go "Wow, look at all those things I did" and then you look forward and say "Wow, look at this, all the things I can do now!"
JG: Now you know what you don't want. There's an old saying "You never know what you want, until you experience a lot of little what_you_don't_wants."
SY: Oh, totally. So, people come and kind of say "Well, aren't you the Shelley Yates that did this and this and this?" and I'm like "Yeah, I did those things, they were tough. They were challenges, I'm glad I grew through that, I'm glad I'm at this place, and I'm glad I can offer this information to you without having to stand up in ropes and pretend I'm something I'm not. Because, I'm just a normal human being like you, and together we can change the world, but not through looking at each other, like you have to be ‘O, holy you’, or ‘O, special you’, or any of those things. It's like ‘Yeah, I'm just a person.’"
JG: People will come up here looking for the infamous James. They're waiting for the big curtains to [wide up,] open up, and come down of some staircase or something, with a bowl of fruit next to me, I don't know what it is. But they get here and they find a guy shoveling manure with dirt all over his face, or fixing the plumbing, or whatever, doing whatever needs to get done here, and then they start asking me "Well, where's James? Does he ever come out?" It's kind of hilarious, really - I used to go along with them "Nah, that guy never comes out. We work our asses off, we never see him." I'll play with him for a little while, and then I go get cleaned up, and I'll come back out and hang out with them for a little while, and they just look at me laughing, it's pretty funny.
SY: Well, and is nothing worse than somebody putting some sort of label on you that "Oh, my goodness, you're so special". Like "Come on, lady, I'm not, OK? I'm struggling just like you.” And when I did give speaking engagements, I used to always end them by saying "I honor and respect you so much for following the path with no proof." Lots of people haven't seen Light Beings, or have the experience of the miracle I have seen, or any of that. So, I still question, if my ego still gets in there and stirs my head - my God, imagine how hard this is for somebody who's had nothing to hold on to.
JG: I think about that, because we, you and I probably just take it for granted. I know you don't, but in a way I take it for granted, because I've had all these outrageous experiences, and I just share, so everything just flows, I don't have a problem with it.
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[50.01]
Part 10
JG: But then I have to step back and I go "Wow" and I was told once not to water seedlings with a fire hose, that we'd just uproot them. But, sometimes, I forget, and I forget that people just haven't had some of these experiences. They haven't had the proof (or the…), they don't have the reference points. And the ones that are just doing it and coming from the heart, even though they haven't had those experiences, to me my hat's off to them.
SY: Big time. Because, like I said, here I am. Imagine, I went and hid myself away in the house for at least the past year and a half. I don't interact, I don't [go out], I don't engage, and of course, sitting in my own home, stewing in the fact that I have this piece of information I really want to share, and I mean fair, like "Oh, Shelley, you don't want to go out and do that, because you know you're going to get all these negatives.” And you know, it's so easy for us as humans to look at the negative, so when Fire the Grid happened, we had thousands, (I can't even imagine how many) hundreds of thousands of e-mails come in, saying "What a great experience I had”, and they shared it, I mean, in the e-mails and it's on the site. It's this [glue] called Testimonials, and here beautiful, beautiful e-mails of truth and what they experienced. And I get one or two e-mails saying "You're the bogeyman, you're doing this, and we don't like you and we want you to go away." What do I do? I go away. I literally go away.
So, the people who have loved me through this have been incredibly patient, while I move[d] through my human stuff. And you know what, James? We all got our human stuff. You may have a great day on Monday, when you're completely spiritually aligned, compassionate, and you see the great Brilliant Infinity in everything, in everyone you look at, and then Tuesday you have what I call the fall from grace, you're miserable, and you can't see anything positive.
JG: Like a good friend of mine, well Miceal Ledwith talks about that, and he says "So how's your life going?" Everybody goes "It's really good. Everything is just peace, I'm doing great." He goes "Oh, I'm sorry." And you look at him really weird. He goes "You're not evolving. If there's no chaos and no challenges in your life you're not evolving.” I think about that too, and I go "Well, damn, I must be on a fast-track to evolution, because I still have that peace, but I'm definitely having those challenges” and I know you do too. The old saying is "If you're not receiving flak you're not over the target.” I've been sitting on the target for quite a while, I think.
SY: Yeah, there you go! So, even in the message of delivery today that I'm giving you, you heard me say yesterday "I'm sitting on the fence, James", and you're like "Well, will you do the show?" and I'm like "OK, I will, I will" and then, as soon as I commit to do it you're hearing me go "Oh, my gosh, what am I doing?" So, I send this message out to your audience and I open myself to divine instructions and guidance and I say "I'll carry this light as best as I can, and I'll deliver it to people as honestly and truthful as I can, and basically if you don't like it, listen to someone else." You know, think about it.
JG: I think when you hear this show again later on, you're going to go "Oh, my God, where did that come from?"
SY: Well, I'm really thankful for your guidance and help and allowing this light to shine and say "OK, I can step into this today." So thank you very much.
JG: We're just mirrors here. We've got a wonderful group here, at the ranch, and they really support people and their own divinity and their own awakening process, and I love that we're trying to get a really strong core group here to hold the energy.
SY: Well, [that's what I] other than Nova Scotia in Canada, and it's full of a lot of people, that are full of a lot of questions, and I have not necessarily been arms-open-wide type of thing, because a lot of people try to get me to speak in churches. It's like "You need to go to a church." and I have no problem with a church, because like I said, it's the full range. But, then you go into a church and then you're held up to some sort of standard, and I don't want to be held up to a standard, I just want a meeting place to tell you the message. So, if it happens to be a church, it's because this is a great room to talk to you, it holds everybody in, and we can all get together and be warm and comfortable. But, basically, this message is across the board for every human being that's walking on the Earth. We are all energy beings in these human suits, and we can focus our attention and our energy, and we can change our situation and choose the world we want. So, let's do that.
JG: It is just, just get back to basics. So, people want to get a hold of you, how do they get a hold of you, do they just go to your website?
SY: Yeah, [my website is, I don't know if,] I think they took down my e-mail, like my personal e-mail, because I kind of said "Look, I'm done". But again, if people want to get hold of me, they can certainly get hold of me through the Fire the Grid website, and as long as everything moves smoothly in the next couple of weeks I will try to reach my webmaster and try to do what we've done here tonight. I'll try to get it on the site, I don't like the word "try" - I "will", I will do these things, get this stuff on the site, and get a link to me so that we can start having conversations. If you got anything negative to say, send it to someone else, because those are the ones I don't really want to see. But if you want to share something with me, my heart's open, I hear your joy too. So, I will get all these things done as soon as humanly possible.
JG: I'm glad you're back on track and you're doing the Fire the Grid [I], we definitely need it right now. I know you've got some legions of beautiful Light Beings behind you, orchestrating this whole thing and, as I say, you just have to become like a hollow bone and get out of way and let the Spirit [plug] through you.
SY: Thank you. That's what I'm going to do.
JG: We're out of time, so I got to sign off. It's just been an awesome interview, and we'll have to do it again soon.
SY: I look forward to it, I really do. And just to remind people, it's FiretheGrid.com or org, and check in and have a little patience with me - as soon as I can, I'll be there.
JG: Great, awesome.
SY: Thanks James.
JG: Thanks for coming on this show.
SY: OK, bye.
JG: All right, this is James Gilliland with "As you wish" talk radio, signing off. Have a great evening. Good night.

